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While it has been years since I last watched The L Wordit was still quite guy lesbian sex few years after the series originally aired. Was it progress to see a show all about queer women? However, like many mass media portrayals, it suffered from representing a cast which was only vaguely diversified.

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When people articulate a gender identity, you should believe them, right? That includes cis people. Rather, I actually mean preferred sexual practices. His refusal or maybe even inability to perform in a typical heterosexual male gender role is the crux of the humor.

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Is Lisa a lesbian? No, I think not. Lisa is not a woman of any sort. But we have far too little information to go on, and frankly, so does the Lisa. Perhaps it is possible in that Lisa would have the vocabulary mature chubby swingers identify as genderqueer, but this is speculation not backed up by the source material.

Well, is Lisa as a character guy lesbian sex transphobic? Why would he be? Not transphobic, but hardly feminist or progressive. Swing and a miss. Kat Callahan is a longtime journalist, civics teacher, and union organiser. She currently works for the United Nations and is based in Tokyo.

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That what I heard too, when I was searching more about Lisa about a decade ago. Lisa apparently was a roadie for bands at lilith fair. And, as expected from a highly biphobic and transphobic series, it guy lesbian sex what it did to these other 2 identities: I have that book, too, and was guy lesbian sex reading it in lacking better terminology and as an English major with an interest in lit crit.

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It was just so unnecessarily cruel. As Drew says, the show inadvertently told the truth with the disdain online chat in uk how Lisa was treated. Thankfully, yes, we have more nuanced ways of describing the different permutations than we had available.

But unlike Alice, there were plenty then who would have been guy lesbian sex of his identification as something other than a cis het dude if it were presented in the way that the show only really achieved during the sex scene. My partner and I literally rewatched the Lisa plot just last week because we were talking about it! I read Lisa as a non-binary character personally.

The language in the response has been changed, but I used to think about that line a lot because it felt emblematic of my relationship to the queer guy lesbian sex.

Me in high school: I saw season one right guy lesbian sex it came out and it too resonated with me at the time. I would agree Lisa is trans woman, but argue Lisa is probably nb or genderqueer trans woman the way some things were worded talked guy lesbian sex.

Wow this was the weirdest timing — I was literally gut what the autostraddle stance was about Lisa yesterday. So valuable to read this discussion! Thank you! Hmmm this is interesting. I started guy lesbian sex the L Word very early in my transition back in At the time, it seemed obvious to me that the character was a parody of a queer trans woman. Having Lisa dress masculine just built in some plausible deniability.

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This was guy lesbian sex why I stopped watching the L Word after just a few episodes. But like I said, I only ever talked about this with one or two people.

So today Guy lesbian sex was in for quite a shock. I had no idea that there were people who read Lisa as a trans guy or as a semi-closeted trans woman or thought he was a positive representation. It sorta makes me want to go back and rewatch those parts of the.

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I genuinely do want to learn and become a good ally. It was really interesting to see some positive receptions to Lisa, as well lesbiah the mixed reactions.

I honestly loved reading everything you all said. Sexual fantasy is inherently objectifying in that it tends to focus on a projected image of the fantasy object rather than on the entire, complex human. But a well-behaved guy lesbian sex or guydyke, like a well-behaved person of any gender or orientation, does not project their fantasies onto non-consenting partners.

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I agree with Gguy guy lesbian sex Ivan. I went into the show hearing that it could be very transphobic, but I was, then, confused by Ivan because his story seemed like a good, genuine trans story despite the transphobic push back he gets from some of the other characters. I would be very interested if Ivan or Lisa came back in the eex to fix the mistakes of the past writers, but I seriously doubt they.

I am a long-time reader of Autostraddle and have finally signed up to comment on this great article! I still had no idea that I was actually a woman, even though Hot putas cross-dressed in private, and even though I only really felt at home among women-oriented communities—especially ones that included other lesbians.

I was actually pretty close to being a separatist, but even that somehow never brought the question of my gender all guy lesbian sex way to the surface. And then, init finally did come. And I saw Lisa.

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